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 how to begin your handwork
Author: cactusmama 
Date:   09-24-06 23:49

I am curious.......I am a self-taught embroiderer. I can do any stitch out there, I understand about wasteknots at the beginning of stitches but these seem to work well for me only when I do a continous stitch like a stem stitch or such, so I am curious....how do you begin french knots? Waste knots don't seem to work for me because there really isn't anything to anchor the thread to. Would you take a couple of little tiny beginning stitches and hold the tail to slip under them? I know you shouldn't knot anything, but I can't seem to keep my french knots together without a tiny knot in the beginning that than tends to be right under the french knot. Help please anyone? I would love to know how the pros do it.

cactusmama

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 Re: how to begin your handwork
Author: Tess Chatham 
Date:   09-25-06 10:29

Are you doing french knots individually or in a cluster? If in a cluster or as the center of some already finished flower, there's not much of a problem...anchor a few backstitches somewhere in the underside of all ready finished work, or make a waste knot right just outside that flower where you will be sure to make several french knots over the "tail" of it and then you will be able to cut away the waste knot and what's left of the "tail" of it on the underside and still have your french knots anchored.

Trouble comes when these french knots are out there all by themselves... singly or in just tiny clusters. It's a little trickier, but still can be done. You've got the right idea.... take a couple straight up and straight down tiny stitches over just a thread or two of fabric, leaving about a 3" "tail" of thread on the underside. Then make that single or tiny cluster of french knots right over those tiny stitches. Then weave the tail of thread that is still in the needle around the tiny stitches on the back side of that french knot before cutting it away. Rethread the 3" "tail" and do the same thing... a bit of fine needle weaving. It helps if your fabric is not too sheer and a bit loosely woven to catch just the underside of some threads of fabric. If your fabric is more "sheer" or very fine.... as in shadow work, you've got to do some really tiny weaving or stitches keeping everything just under the french knot. Making one tiny stitch in one direction and then turning about 90 degrees to make a second one usually works better than stitches in the same direction.
There isn't really anything "magical" about it... you just do whatever works... and practice getting really tiny stitches! A number 12 needle helps, if you can handle it. The smaller the needle, the tinier the anchoring and weaving stitches you can take.

Tess

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 Re: how to begin your handwork
Author: cactusmama 
Date:   09-25-06 13:23

Thank you so much Tess. I did mean individual french knots. I also was questioning making lazy daisys too because they don't have much stability on the back to anchor to either. I guess I just need to have faith in the fabric. I do use a 12 needle and thought the way you described was the way to do it, but didn't have much faith in those threads staying put with a single french knot. I guess I need to just have a little faith that those little threads in the fabric will keep those fibers from coming out. I also appreciated you saying to do one stitch one way and turn it 90 degrees. I didn't think about it that way. Thank you for making me think outside the box.

cactusmama

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 Re: CoogeKidgerce
Author: Sew-N-Sew Girl 
Date:   11-01-08 18:03

I start most of my embroidery with a split stitch. This anchors the stitch and you do not have to worry about tails and weaving. It also works for ending if appropriate.

Some people work the first stitch form the top and some from the bottom.. Then you cut it short and go on your way.

Take your thread say from back to front leaving a tail. Then lay the tail just the to right of the stitch. Now take a stitch thru the tail splitting it in 2.
then continue on your way to whatever the next stitch is that you want. There are very tiny split stitches just to anchor the thread.

Sew-N-SewGirl aka MHT

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