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 Candlewicking? (2007)
Author: Susan Wicki 
Date:   10-17-07 00:41

I bought a pillow kit in January from Joann's that has hand embroidery (no problem) and then candlewicking with a heavy cream colored thread that is heavier than the embroidery floss. The instructions are not very user friendly... how is candlewicking different from hand embroidery? Is it the same thing, just with the special thread/floss? It looks like it is the same, but I'm expecting it to be different.

Any advice?

Thanks,
Susan

The only place housework comes before sewing is in the dictionary~

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: Julie 
Date:   10-18-07 10:25

Candlewicking started out just like it sounds - with candle wicks, when embroidery threads were too costly for the general population. A candlewick knot is a bit different from a french knot, in that it has an extra wrap. My best description would be a figure 8. In my limited experience, candlewicking usually involes the knots and some straight or stem stitching.

Julie

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: sewLo 
Date:   10-18-07 12:09

You use a colonial knot for candlewicking. I'm sure that you can look on the internet or in a good hand embroidery book and find an illustration on how to make a colonial knot. Like Julie says it is formed like a figure 8...but an illustration in front of you would help, I'm sure! Wendy Schoen has a cute little poem that she recites when she teaches you how to make one. I heard her recite it on Martha's Sewing Room a month or so ago...but can't recall it at the moment!

I just checked my Sew Beautiful index and there is a Wendy Schoen illustration and explanation of making a Colonial Knot in Sew Beautiful issue 65 on page 94 and in issue 80 on page 37.

Hope that you have one of those issues or that you can find an illustration online!


Lois in TN

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: C Aguirre 
Date:   10-20-07 15:47

I did some candlewicking a number of years ago when it was so popular. There was a special thread called candlewicking thread that was a lot heavier than normal embroidery thread. I don't know what the modern equivalent to that thread would be. Anyone else know? My designs consisted of a series of knots (I thought they were french knots) that made up the design. I don't remember any straight stitches but I could be wrong about that. There are machine embroidery designs that call themselves candlewicking but I haven't stitched out any of these to see what they look like.

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: Susan Wicki 
Date:   10-27-07 10:11

Thank you for your help, Ladies! I really appreciate it.

Blessings,
Susan

The only place housework comes before sewing is in the dictionary~

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: Sparkle 
Date:   10-28-07 09:00

Candlewicking got it's name from the thread used - candlewicking. In olden times - colonial? pioneer? - women couldn't trot down to WalMart and pick up nice DMC floss for 25cents a skein, they had to use what they had - everybody had candlewicking because they had to make candles to be able to see at night so candlewicking it was. The thread did not lend itself to nice, smooth stitches so they just did little knots and thus a whole unique form of needlework was begun. I find it so fascinating that woman's innate desire to beautify their homes has led to so many different ways of needlework - I swear Mountmellick embroidery was created because they only had plain white string and apron fabric to work with.

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: Kathleen 
Date:   10-28-07 12:42

Sparkle, I know you were working on the Mountmellick embroidery. How's it going?

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: Sparkle 
Date:   10-29-07 11:20

Well, much better, now, thanks! When I first started I had only ever seen *1* actual piece but I had lots of books and the stitches aren't that difficult - it's pretty much like regular embroidery with a few more textural type stitches and knots thrown in.

But - this is the funny part - I had the scale ALL WRONG!!! LOL!! I was doing the usual rather small, somewhat dainty designs like you do in regular embroidery but all inwhite. Last July my OD and I went up to DC to the Smithsonian fair where they had the most lovely lady - Mabel Bodie - who was doing all sorts of Irish needlework. She had bunches of examples of Mountmellick and it is huge - big, fat almost coarse work, very thick and lumpy. If you have a mat embellished with Mountmellick it would be strictly for decorative use, you could never set anything on it because it would tip over.

My visit with Mabel was quite nice - I had a little private lesson in some of the stitches and then knitting the lace, too - right there on the mall in front of the Smithsonian castle. So now I know what it is really supposed to look like, I have the proper threads and fabrics from Yvette Stanton in Australia and also some things from Mabel. I've finished the little mat Mabel gave me and have a couple other smallish things started. But you should've seen all of the samples Mabel brought! OMYGAWSH!! She had Limerick and Carrickmack (I know I spelled that wrong) lace and tried to show me the difference, lots of very dainty, delicate shadow work, just a huge assortment of all types and techniques of needlework.

The other featured country was the Mekong Delta - they had incredible weavers and embroiderers as well but the language barrier was huge. Lots to see, tho! And quilts from Virginia.

I was really interested in it because it looked like something I could do - and I can, it's quite easy - and it's Irish, as am I and I really like all sorts of whitework - and this is probably the easiest!

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: C Aguirre 
Date:   10-29-07 14:08

Sparkle, What a wonderful opportunity! I'll bet you got enough ideas and inspiration to last for a while.

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: Kathleen 
Date:   10-29-07 16:09

Thanks for sharing, Sparkle. You gave me alot if interesting information, which I really enjoyed learning. And to think, you learned it in front of a CASTLE, no less! The lady sounded really nice. It was good that you ran into her, and that you were able to learn more about the needlework in which you were so interested!
The Mekong Delta: were these people Hmong? Did they do story cloth embroideries and cross stitch? If so, they have a very interesting history, which I'll share if anyone is interested.
You really lucked out, Sparkle. Thanks again for sharing! (Now you're whetting MY appetite!)

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: Susan Wicki 
Date:   10-29-07 22:14

Kathleen,

Would you please share about the Mekong Delta? I don't know anything about it, but I am interested.

Also, Sparkle, what is Mountmellick Embroidery?

I'm really getting into the handwork. I do machine work for WORK and the hand work is so much like fun instead of work, you know? Its really therapeutic for me!

I can't imagine calculating a charge for handwork.... How would you do that? I'm too slow at it -- too much of a perfectionist.

The only place housework comes before sewing is in the dictionary~

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: Kathleen 
Date:   11-01-07 17:17

Hi,
The Hmong are an agrarian people who live in Southeast Asia. Their help was enlisted by the Americans during the Vietnam War, who promised them asylum in the U.S. in return for their assistance. The Hmong faced many hardships escaping the Communists, including crossing over into Thailand, which meant getting across the Mekong River. The Hmong brought with them their beautiful cross stitch, applique, and story cloth embroidery. The latter often depicts their everyday life in the homeland, as well as pictorial embroidery showing them escaping from the enemy. The work is very detailed and exquisitely executed. When Sparkle spoke of people of the Mekong Delta, I immediately thought of the Hmong people.
Are these them, Sparkle?

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: Sparkle 
Date:   11-02-07 11:18

I don't know that much about the Hmong but from what I do know I'm guessing these people were Hmong. They were very small people. There were signs with descriptions of what they were doing but the people were very quiet and I'm sure overwhelmed by everything that was going on - somehow I got the impression they were country people. The methods of producing their crafts were very simple but the end products were extremely fine. Some of the women were using a very simple foot loom and weaving the most gorgeous intricate designs in wonderful silk!!! I've posted some pictures here - the embroidery was beyond beautiful! The colors were VERY vibrant, the designs bold and fanciful. I'd love to see some projects interpreted to do in Sew Beautiful or Inspirations. Irish pictures are first and then the Mekiong pictures.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12623160@N02/sets/72157602847045168/

Ok - I have to add that the US gov't/military really did a number on the Hmong because they used them, promised them US asylum and then went off and left them to the hands of the communists where they were treated quite severely, how many thousands were killed no one will ever really know for sure.

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: Kathleen 
Date:   11-02-07 17:26

Sparkle,
Your pictures were just great! Thanks for sharing. The samples of the Mountmellick described everything so well!

The needlework from the Mekong Delta didn't look like that of the Hmong, nor did the headress that the woman was wearing. Perhaps it was another group, maybe the Miao? In any case, the work certainly is beautiful. I'm so glad you had the opportunity to see the beautiful needle arts of two different cultures! Isn't humanity just splendid?

I'm glad you brought up that part about the treatment of many of the Hmong by the U.S. Absolutely true. And to think: alot of people in this country resent them and their presence in the U.S., and want them to go back "home." (which would be suicide, of course.) Talk about a grateful nation!

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: Elizabeth Hall 
Date:   11-30-07 10:34

I live in south Alabama and we were vacationing in DC the first week of June. The preparations for the festival were just beginning. I wish that I had known about the festival earlier so I could have delayed our trip until July. I would have loved to experience this festival.

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: Kathleen 
Date:   11-30-07 12:18

Elizabeth,
I'm baby-sitting for dgd in Huntsville! (I do that about once a month; live in WI). Fancy that I just happened to read your message and you're from south Alabama! May I ask what part? Do you get up this way for Martha's School? I get a 2-4-1 deal, since they give me room and board AND let me see dgd when I go to the School! LOL.
Kathleen

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 Re: Candlewicking?
Author: miss stitchalot 
Date:   04-28-09 15:34

OLD post brought up by junk post.
missy

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