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 antique lace
Author: Cheryl Grant 
Date:   01-05-09 22:12

Hi there,

I just bought some antique lace through ebay. I was quite upset with my purchase when I saw it. Unfortunately it has some horrible staining. For example, one of the laces is ivory on one side and almost completely yellow on the other. It is an entredeux type of lace. The other is cotton and looks like it is brown from age but I think it is actually supposed to be ivory. How do I get this level of staining out? It is so delicate that I don't want to be too harsh with it. I have read about a few methods: 1... using baking soda and water 2... using vinegar and water 3... tea stain it so it at least has uniform staining. I was really hoping to get it back to an original ivory though. What do you think would be my best option? Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks.

Cheryl

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 Re: antique lace
Author: Vwren 
Date:   01-06-09 07:04

I usually soak stained lace in Biz. I think it would work much better for your problem than either baking soda or vinegar. Hydrogen peroxide is another possibility, but I bet the Biz will work the best of anything.

Cassie in SE KS

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 Re: antique lace
Author: Sparkle 
Date:   01-06-09 08:55

First just try washing it in a mild soap and water - like Ivory, not necessarily laundry detergent. You will be amazed at how much comes out with just plain ol' soap and water. Then try the Biz.

Barbara O.
http://www.finestitchery.com/

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 Re: antique lace
Author: KathyK 
Date:   01-06-09 10:29

I vote with Sparkle, gently wash then Biz it. My trusty Biz bucket sits under the chair in the utility room. Kathy

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 Re: antique lace
Author: Cheryl Grant 
Date:   01-06-09 12:48

I have never heard of Biz before. What kind of cleaner is it? I'm not sure if I can buy it in Canada. Is there perhaps an alternative? Thanks again.

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 Re: antique lace
Author: Sparkle 
Date:   01-06-09 13:58

o - I don't think you can get it in Canada, either. I know MizLilly talks about getting it when she comes to the US. It's advertised as an 'enzyme' cleaner but I think - and this is just my personal opinion - that it is essentially a hydrogen peroxide cleaner like Oxyclean. I couldn't get any REAL info on their site. It cleans protein-based stains particularly well and I think it makes the wash water feel, look and smell the same as Oxyclean does. Can you get Oxyclean? It's not toxic and it does not weaken fibers. It also doesn't usually remove color like bleach does altho I once was trying to remove hair color from a pillowcase and it did slightly fade the pillowcase fabric. But it also took out the hair color!

Barbara O.
http://www.finestitchery.com/

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 Re: antique lace
Author: Gita R. Levin 
Date:   01-06-09 16:13

This is a little off topic but since you are talking about cleaning products, I thought that I'd ask. Many years ago, my mother stored old quilts in green plastic trash bags in a closet in Florida. My guess is that from the heat, the plastic let off an oily residue and stained the quilts. Do you know of any product that will get an oil stain out of cotton fabric? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Gita

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 Re: antique lace
Author: Cheryl Grant 
Date:   01-06-09 22:50

I'll try Oxyclean. I'll let you know the results. Thanks for the advice.

About the "oil stains"... are you sure they are from the garbage bags? I have stored cloths in garbage bags before (for a few years) and not had this issue. I really hope that it doesn't happen as I still have some baby clothes stored this way for the next time... :-) The only thing I can think of happening is something being spilled on or in the bags. I am not sure what I would try except maybe the same sort of advice as above. I also know that stain remover like "Spray "N Wash - Dual Action" (two liquids one pink one clear that work together) works great on most stains I have tried it on so long as the fabric isn't super delicate. It is quite a strong chemical but works great. Good luck and please let me know if this does happen from garbage bags if anyone else knows. I might have to reorganize some of my storage. Yikes.

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 Re: antique lace
Author: Sparkle 
Date:   01-07-09 06:21

Gita - the general rule of thumb is to use the least offensive method first and then proceed from there, ie plain water, plain soap and water, then if that doesn't get the stain out go to a detergent and/or Biz or Oxy. We once had embroidery floss bleed into a completed sampler from the steam when my daughter was pressing it! We got the excess dye out - from advice from this phorum - just by running cold water thru the fabric until it was gone, about 20 minutes of running water.

BUT - quilts, especially old quilts are sometimes a different story. I'm certainly no expert but this has been discussed before on different threads here and depending on how old and valuable the quilts are they may require special handling. I know there's a special soap you're supposed to use - Orvis? - that you can get online or in quilt shops, that you need to support the quilt with a sheet as you're washing it in the bathtub - there's quite a bit to it as I recall. Try an all topic, all date search and ask the question again on the Quilt thread and the Machine Embroidery.

And I know you're NOT supposed to store ANYTHING in garbage bags!!! I've had some Halloween costumes come out kind of sticky feeling after being stored in garbage bags and also some teddy bears once. Once at a seminar we were told to roll the old quilts up and store them in a cotton pillowcase or make a bag out of muslin to store them in.

Barbara O.
http://www.finestitchery.com/

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 Re: antique lace
Author: Luzenia 
Date:   01-07-09 06:34

I don't know if I would try this on a Quilt but I have gotten axel grease out of clothing using Goop hand cleaner that mechanics use. I have also used ERA liquid detergent on really bad oil and dirt on clothing.

Luzenia

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 Re: antique lace
Author: Cheryl Grant 
Date:   01-07-09 11:33

Oh boy am I happy you asked your question Gita! I guess I have a bunch of reorganizing to do. I never had the problem before but maybe they were not stored that long. I don't know but I will be making some storage bags out of some old sheets or fabric. Thanks. :-)

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 Re: antique lace
Author: C Aguirre 
Date:   01-08-09 17:43

I bought some lace trim on Ebay that was described as "ivory" in color. When I received it, I realized it was dark due to long storage. A soak in the Oxyclean bucket turned it as white as snow. I had to change the solution once or twice, otherwise it was a breeze to do.

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 Re: antique lace
Author: Julie 
Date:   01-09-09 15:51

I LOVE Oxyclean. Use it in all the dgc laundry. I was able to salvage lace handed down from dh's great grandmother after my MIL's house burned. It was in a dresser drawer in a box, but still had that grey color and smoke smell. Several days in Oxyclean got that out, plus some stains of unknown origin! I made DGD an Easter dress (the Genevieve pattern with all that insertion around the godets) using some of that lace and it held up beautifully.

Julie

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 Re: antique lace
Author: Cheryl Grant 
Date:   01-18-09 19:27

I used Oxyclean and it is my new best friend! Thanks! One of the articles still has a wee bit of a hint of grey so I might try again or tea stain it. However, I am shocked at how well it worked on the yellowing. I can't see any residue. Yeah!!! I am now trying it on some lace from 1910. Hope it works as well on that.

Just a couple other questions about storage... Can I store in plastic bags like sandwich or freezer bags? I have some of my laces and fabric in these. I still haven't had a chance to make cotton ones for my old baby clothes but I will soon. Christmas had me pretty busy so I'm just starting to find time again for my things. Also what is the best way to store fancy dresses and heirloom articles (some are satin, silk, and cotton)? I want to keep some items nice for when my daughters have their own children.

Thanks again. :-)

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 Re: antique lace
Author: Kath 
Date:   03-21-09 18:53

I am just adding my two cents.

I purchased a BEAUTIFUL wedding gown from 1910...the woman that wore it was the great grandmother of the young girl I purchased it from...for $10!!! The gown was a very dark yellow color from age. I ran a bathtub full of tepid water and added a cup of Biz to it and carefully added the gown...lowering it into the Biz water w/ a sheet. I let it set for about 1/2 hour. When I returned, the water was a dark brown....I changed the water several times, adding another cup of Biz each time. After two days, the gown was white again! And...after lifting the gown out and letting it air dry...I also discovered a delicate headpiece with a veil trapped inside the dress. They both turned out wonderfully renewed!!!

Kath :o)

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 Re: antique lace
Author: Fancy Stitches 
Date:   03-21-09 23:27

Kath, what a wonderful result. And to find the veil and headpiece, too! Wow!! Congratulations. I'm delighted for you. These old garments are true treasures--just like we try to make for future generations.

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