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 Delicate problem re: Bloomers (2005)
Author: Claire UK 
Date:   06-25-05 17:32

Dear fellow fluffettes, I have a problem.

I love to wear skirts, but in the hot weather the tops of my legs inside get sore. I thought I would make some bloomers, but the inside leg seam rubs just as much as having no bloomers on at all. Obviously petticoats are a must for modesty, but they dont help the problem.

Any suggestions for a sore, deeply embarassed lady? I can figure out a way of making bloomers/pantalettes without an inside leg seam.
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: NH Charlotte 
Date:   06-25-05 18:12

Claire, I am in the same boat. I love petti pants and find that if they are made of same nylony type fabric as a slip I don't have that problem of rubbing. MP's Lovely Lingerie Book has a nice pantelette pattern that may help you out.
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: reader36 
Date:   06-25-05 19:31

Claire, Just reading your post's always make me smile. I have the MP Lingerie book but have not made anything from it yet. The bloomers seem like a nice idea....you could even call them "party pants" as we do for dgd's. Diane
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: GMG 
Date:   06-25-05 20:26

Hi Claire, Could you try making two seams, in other words, a panel, with the seam toward the front and one toward the back. The panel would move the seam to a place where it wouldn't rub.

Gillie
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: lib 
Date:   06-25-05 20:44

Another aid in this situation might be some powder in the appropriate area - one which acts as an anti-fungal. Gold Bond is a brand we have here - in the green can, the yellow can is meant for athlete's foot. Also - this may sound very peculiar, but is effective. When I get out of the shower, it isn't always easy to get completely dry in all areas, and a hand-held hair dryer, on warm, aimed apporopriately, helps finish the drying process, and that makes everything much more comfy as well as reducing the rub factor a bit.
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Roxann 
Date:   06-25-05 22:05

Here is an oddball suggestion...can you wear them inside out so that the seam allowance does not rub on your skin? I have done this with socks for many years where a slightly bulky seam across the toes bugs me. Another thought would be to make a tiny french or flat felled seam with minimum bulk. If you are using polyester thread, it may also be an irritant. A serged or zigzagged seam has a bit more tendence to be bulky and a bit stiff causing irritation.
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Claire UK 
Date:   06-26-05 12:29

The serged seam is polyester. When I just felt it, it IS very scratchy. I wouldnt have thought of that!!

I am going to wear these petti-pants (what a lovely name) inside out and make my next pair with french seams in cotton.

Thankyou ladies, I am a relieved, slightly less embarassed lady!! : ) I would never have thought of the seams, I was trying to think of a way of making jodpur-like bloomers LOL and as I like lace and frills on my undies, it wasnt working out as an idea.!!
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: shirley-Calgary 
Date:   06-26-05 14:31

Claire make culottes and you wont need a slip and your thighs wont rub - talc also helps a lot (dont use the perfumed kind on irritated skin) the only elastic is in the waist so no binding and air can circulate.

Culottes are those long underpants often used under clingy slacks - they are wide enough in the leg and lacey to eliminate the slip. Make them out of either silk or cotton or even tshirt material and you add as much lace as you like.

Shirley - Calgary
mom to Baxie (bichon) Bella, Dickens (Maltese) & Chi-Chi and Cowboy Apr 15/2010 at Rainbow Bridge Pistol - Cowboys littermate went today August 31/2010

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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Gita R. Levin 
Date:   06-26-05 17:12

I just wore a pair of the coulotte panties this week. I bought them at a local department store. The brand in the US that I buy is Vanity Fair. Making them sounds like a great idea. Happy sewing. Gita
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: NH Charlotte 
Date:   06-26-05 17:22

Shirley I call them petty pants, you call them coulotte's!! To me coulottes is a pair of outside pants similar to capris but with wide legs!!
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: mizlilly 
Date:   06-26-05 20:58

One other idea (you girls are so clever!) if you make them out of a cotton knit, and you have a serger, you could flatlock that seam. I made polar fleece socks with serged sole to upper seam and got complaints; next time round I flatlocked and everyone was happy!
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: shirley-Calgary 
Date:   06-26-05 21:24

Charlotte - culottes is french word for pants - like us saying put on your pants could be underwear, capri's, peddlepushers, shorts, slacks, jeans.
Mizlilly you will have to do a flatlock on that imagine and then tell me how to do it - lol

Shirley - Calgary
mom to Baxie (bichon) Bella, Dickens (Maltese) & Chi-Chi and Cowboy Apr 15/2010 at Rainbow Bridge Pistol - Cowboys littermate went today August 31/2010

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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: CindySews 
Date:   06-26-05 22:50

I can speak to the value of a flatlocked seam at least on polar fleece socks. I make them for my brother who has very sensitive feet. The only problem I have now is every Christmas and birthday (he's a winter babe) I get the "You're making me socks right?" call.

Cindy
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Elizabeth Clark 
Date:   06-27-05 10:02

I'd suggest two possibilities:

Cut the inseam on a fold, so there's nothing there at all to rub.

Or, flat-fell the seam allowance there with the fell on the outside.

Regards,
Elizabeth C.

www.elizabethstewartclark.com
www.thesewingacademy.org
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Claire UK 
Date:   06-28-05 17:38

Hello fellow fluffettes!!

My patterns from Kathys modest clothing came today - all 7 of them from the Commonsense patterns co. One of them is for pantalettes so I am going to try the pattern out using french seams.

Let you know how I get on. The designs are fantastic!! I am already misty eyed thinking how wonderful it will be to be a beutifully, modestly, femininely, womanly dressed woman again. Praise God for this company (NAAF)
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Philice Ferrara 
Date:   06-28-05 20:26

I've just read the problem stated and all of the replies here. What a great resourse we are for each other!!! Where on earth else could any of us go directly to women's minds to solve a sensitive engineering problem and have not one single crack pot to deal with? I am so so grateful for this forum. For the record, dear Claire this is a very common problem amoun we fluffettes and I for one am going to make a couple of pair of pantalettes myself now that I'm thinking about it. Thank you for letting me know about that company's patterns also. Huggs always for you Claire.
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Galeoreo 
Date:   06-29-05 06:53

I was at Kathy's site the other day and loved her pattern selection. But have lost the addy. Would someone please give it to me again? I really should bookmark or write down these things! Her patterns were indeed pretty while being modest.

Gale in South Carolina
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: shirley-Calgary 
Date:   06-29-05 13:33

http://www.commonsensepatterns.com/

Shirley - Calgary
mom to Baxie (bichon) Bella, Dickens (Maltese) & Chi-Chi and Cowboy Apr 15/2010 at Rainbow Bridge Pistol - Cowboys littermate went today August 31/2010

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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Claire UK 
Date:   06-29-05 14:06

Thanks Shirley, couldnt find it.

BTW The idea of using a hairdryer on delicate places is a no-no apparently. It can cause dust to blow where it shouldnt and cause infections inside, ouch!!
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: blondebomber 
Date:   07-03-05 22:09

OK-fluffy ladies (love that term) I will toss something else out to you because my DD refuses to wear skirts without shorts on under them-she's 13... since we live in high heat and humidity it was a real problem finding appropriate fabric to make her shorts-plus the shorts that would look good (ie. invisible) under her skirts so...problem solved thanks to a friend;;;
I got a pattern for bikers shorts-they come in all sizes and made them out of the lycra stretchy but moisture wicking fabric-wazoodle has a really nice white one that is dyable. I made her biker shorts and then just attached them to her skirts before I put on the waist band so they are all one garment when I"m done. It's close to her skin so she doesn't get rub marks (which she has a problem with also and she's a skinny twig so I think this is just something that people with sensitive skin get) and it fits nicely under her skirts. Problem solved---even better she says that they feel so nice on...she loves wearing them. Any of the tap pants (those in MP lingere book I tried making for her too) were too loose and she would get rub marks from them. So, if nothing else works for you-try going with the tighter stretchy fitting shorts and see if they don't fit the bill-you can make them in all lengths so....just another idea that worked for us.C
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: blondebomber 
Date:   07-04-05 22:23

Hi ladies-here's a link to the pic of the skirt/shorts combo that I just made for my DD
http://groups.msn.com/nanapennypockets/blondebomber.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=8013
She's says that this is the ONLY way to wear skirts:) It is so comfortable and they feel soft on her legs and not one rub mark....
They are really simple and easy to make that's for sure-took me a total of maybe an hour to make her the entire outfit (top and bottom)-they sell this combo biker shorts/skirts at a store in the mall for $68-and they are made out of nice stretchy soft wicking fabric but......
Just thought you'd like to look-C
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Cindy Smith 
Date:   07-05-05 11:27

That is a very clever solution !!

wonder what that would look like in my size ??

oh the horror !!

Cindy L. Smith
Licensed Martha Pullen BabyLock Instructor


"Pet hair has been lovingly added to each stitch"
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: NanaPennyPockets 
Date:   07-05-05 13:14

You can purchase the cotton knit long leg bloomers at http://www.vermontcountrystore.com/jump.jsp?itemID=250&itemType=CATEGORY&iMainCat=55&iSubCat=250&page=2
http://www.vermontcountrystore.com/jump.jsp?itemID=250&itemType=CATEGORY&iMainCat=55&iSubCat=250&page=2

They are wonderful!
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: NH Charlotte 
Date:   07-05-05 13:43

Nana thanks for the link. I just order two pair of petti pants!! Can't find them around here. Much cheaper than making some.
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Norma K. 
Date:   07-05-05 16:34

Wow! I like a lot of things on that site. Thank you for posting it.
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Claire UK 
Date:   07-05-05 18:06

Wonderful site - there goes my reaolution not to spend any money on clothes this month!!!!!

Thankyou, this site has just what I like!!!!!
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Heirloom Sewer 
Date:   07-07-05 11:12

Oh, Claire can I relate to your struggles!! I've worn Bloomers aka Pantaloons for several years for this same reason! I know some ladies who wear flannel bloomers under their skirts in the winter as they don't wear pants.

I have recently been wearing bloomers again for another reason. I recently had a Complete Abdominal Hysterectomy (old fashioned cut top to bottom about 12" long) and couldn't wear underpants due to 40+ staples holding me together. So when I needed to go out (I only went to the dr 'cause I sure didn't feel like going anywhere else and most days still don't feel like there's anyplace/anything worth going through the torture of riding in the car) I wore bloomers under a loose skirt rather than underpants. LOL, I even went to a 4th of July fireworks display (my dd's begged me to go) in just my bloomers and a tee shirt!! I figured it was dark and no one would know anyway!! :-) My dd's' thought it was funny but I was as comfy as it was possible to be. Please pass this suggstion of bloomers instead of panties on to any other ladies you know who've had abdominal surgery!
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: love2sew 
Date:   07-08-05 07:52

I wear fitted knit leggings under my long skirts and dresses in the winter because I am always cold and prefer skirts to slacks. They would be like blondebombers dd's skort but longer.

Laurie in IL
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: E.E. 
Date:   07-08-05 16:45

I know lots of ladies who wear the pantalette or biker short style of underpanties, and not all of them are fluffy!
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: lib 
Date:   07-17-05 19:49

Well, never thought about hair dryer blowing dust into places it shouldn't go - have only used it for warm air on outer surfaces - it was a doctor who made the suggestion to me! Didn't mean to suggest anything wildly indelicate or questionable.
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Marian Case 
Date:   08-04-05 14:34

Claire, I bought a pair of "panties" at one of the stores, Penney's I believe, and they had legs, like shorts but the seams were upside down "U" shaped. Front and back. So there is no rubbing and no seams in the crotch. There are two seams one in the front, about half way between the regular crotch seam and the front of the leg, and one in the back, half way between the regular crotch seam and the back of the leg. I think wrestlers shorts and biker pants are made like that but these were cotton. They are wonderful under skirts. The reason I wear only pants now isbecause I am "fluffy too and the inside of my thighs get raw in the summer. Powder not withstanding, petti pants, and the undies that look like shorts are the only relief I have ever found.

When I first went to work I was 24, (and not fluffy) and working in a factory around a lot of men. Part of my job entailed climbing up a ladder and making adjustments. Well, I discover petti pants and wore them. You would be amazed at how many men made quiet little remarks about my Chartreuse colored petti pants. I just blushed, and went on about my job.
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Eleanor McCarthy 
Date:   10-20-05 21:32

Hi, I have the same problem and have tried several solutions. Two that I like the best are as follows:

1) Junonia sells mid-thigh length, coton stretch knit underpants with eleastic lace at the tops and bottoms. They are designed to fit against the body (not baggy) and come in white and black. I have several pairs and I love them. The last time I tried to order some, they were back-ordered for several months. But that isn't usually the case when I order from them. I tried the ones from Vermont Country Store. They are nice, but baggy. I prefer the Junonia variety.

2) Monostat just came out with an anti-chafe powder-gel. It goes on very light and you can't feel it, but it makes your skin slippery. Then when you walk your thighs don't stick to each other. It is good for other places where you might have chafing problems too.

Kind regards,
El
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Shirley Schooley 
Date:   10-24-05 17:52

I was looking through my new catalog from Winter Silks and immediately thought about this thread when I saw, on page 18, the picture of the "Three-Quarter Split-Skirt Slip" It is really like long petti pants (come in 26" or 27 3/4" length). I remember having something like this to wear under all those long skirts we were wearing during the seventies. I liked them because they can the appearance of a slip but didn't tangle in the folds of the long skirt.
You might go to <http://www.WinterSilks.com and check them out I buy from them regularly--they have comfortable cold weather things.

Shirley Schooley
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: AMM 
Date:   11-02-05 21:09

Maybe this isn't the solution you're looking for but.... Seems like martha mentioned at one of her schools that she hated panty hose and she used deoderant. I mean she rubs the deoderant stick on her upper thighs. It seems like she said to use the kind with baking soda in it. I think I have this right. maybe someone else also heard her mention it.

Anne Michelle Miller

Licensed Martha Pullen Viking Heirloom Instructor
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Sew-what 
Date:   11-03-05 18:38

Yes, this is what she told us!!!!!!!!!!!
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: shirley-Calgary 
Date:   11-04-05 11:22

Yes it makes your inner thighs soft and dry and they do not get sticky from the heat.

Shirley - Calgary
mom to Baxie (bichon) Bella, Dickens (Maltese) & Chi-Chi and Cowboy Apr 15/2010 at Rainbow Bridge Pistol - Cowboys littermate went today August 31/2010

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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: K.E.G. 
Date:   11-16-09 22:56

Just think how it would have looked if Marilyn Monroe had worn pantalettes! I agree that these are great. Silk is nice because it is not hot and doesn't cling. Cotton knit is good in winter. Love this forum! Karen from Tx.

Karen Greer
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 Re: Delicate problem re: Bloomers
Author: Maryann Young 
Date:   07-12-10 17:43

Try a pair of men's boxers. The knit ones- boxer briefs works for us.

myoung
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